No. Va. county sees signs of change amid crackdown

No. Va. county sees signs of change amid crackdown

Pedro Vargas, 24, left, with his son Francisco Vargas, 4, packs up boxes at his store, Club Video Mexico, in Woodbridge, Va., Monday, April 7, 2008. Vargas, a legal resident, has decided to move his now flagging business to Utah, months after Prince William County passed policies cracking down on illegal immigrants.

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WOODBRIDGE, Va. (AP) _ Business at Pedro Vargas’ store, Club Video Mexico, has slid so steeply that only eight people walked through the door one day last month.

One thing he has been selling, however, are one-way bus tickets from northern Virginia to Texas and Mexico. Soon he’ll be getting his own ticket out of town — seeking a friendlier and more lucrative place to do business.

“The last few months have been very, very bad for us,“ said Vargas, who plans to move this summer from Prince William County, about 25 miles southwest of Washington, to Utah, where he recently opened another store.

Many say Prince William’s new crackdown on illegal immigrants has created an environment so unfriendly that Hispanic people are leaving the county of more than 350,000, which according to the U.S. Census Bureau was nearly 15 percent Hispanic in 2006.

The county’s policy, which has drawn heated debate and national attention, directs police officers to check the immigration status of everyone they arrest. Beginning July 1, illegal immigrants also will be denied certain services, such as business licenses and mortgage and rental assistance.

“That’s like a smack in the face to me,“ said Vargas, a 24-year-old Mexican immigrant who is living in the U.S. legally. “I’ve been living here my whole life, and now they pass this law?“

It is difficult to measure how many Hispanic people have left and their exact reasons for leaving. In addition to immigrants’ fears over the new policy, the souring economy and mortgage crisis may be contributing to the departures. But anecdotal evidence increasingly points to a sudden cultural and economic shift in the county’s Hispanic community.

Several Hispanic business owners say their sales have plummeted. Prince William school officials say enrollment in English for speakers of other languages classes fell nearly 6 percent to 12,645 students between Sept. 30 and March 31. Other northern Virginia counties had increases.

Salvador Caballero, pastor of Trono de Jehova Pentecostal Church in Woodbridge, said attendance at his Spanish services has shrunk to about 130 people from 200 in recent months. Some people, he said, have stopped coming because they’re afraid to be out in public, and others have moved to other states or back to their home countries.

One family of seven packed up and went to Texas. “All they told me is they were going because they were afraid here,“ Caballero said. “We’re losing a lot of people here in Prince William. I hope they’re not going to be sorry later.“

Stephen Fuller, director for the Center for Regional Analysis at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., said the policy could end up tainting the county’s image and scaring off investors.

“I think this will affect the county for several years even if they reverse the policy tonight,“ Fuller said. “The damage has been done. It’s like personal reputation; it’s hard to build that back.“

Supporters of the changes, however, say the crackdown is working as intended. Prince William Board of County Supervisors Chairman Corey A. Stewart said it already has had a “tremendous positive effect on the quality of life.“

County supervisors recently approved spending $2.6 million for the initiative. Prince William also has incurred higher-than-expected costs at the local jail due to overcrowding. Authorities were taking weeks to pick up suspected illegal immigrants rather than the 72 hours mandated under a partnership between the county and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. County officials were forced to pay to house inmates in other jails in the state.

A policy that went into effect in March directed police to check the residency status of anyone who is detained, no matter how minor the offense, if they believed the person might in the United States illegally. Prince William County supervisors changed the policy last month; now police check the immigration status of all suspects, but only after they are arrested.

Stewart says the change will reduce the possibility of racial-profiling accusations because everyone will now be checked.

But Kent Willis, executive director of the Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, said the organization still opposes the policy.

“This is an ordinance that through and through sends the message to police that they ought to be stopping and detaining people that speak a foreign language and appear to be from another country,“ he said.

Nancy Lyall, of the immigrant advocacy group Mexicans Without Borders, says she doesn’t know what effect the policy change will have, but that it appears to have already damaged the Hispanic community.

“The community is still completely devastated,“ she said. “And for those obviously that have left, there’s certainly no reason for them to go back.“

At the taco restaurant Ricos Tacos Moya, business has dropped by about 50 percent, and owner Salvador Moya said he doesn’t know how much longer he’ll be able to hold on. He was already forced to shut the doors this year on a second, much larger location in nearby Dumfries, where the bar and dance floor drew some 200 customers each weekend.

“We don’t know what we’re going to do,“ said the Mexican native, who moved to the area 20 years ago and has worked his way up from being a dishwasher. “When the law started, business went down, down, down.“

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Flag Comment Posted by raywilliams on May 31, 2008 at 2:08 pm

Here comes Chris again with a post on 4 day old story. He posts late to hide his ignorance I guess. Chrissy, LEGAL residents are moving out because the Bush Economy has led to a loss of jobs. As LEGAL immigrants need to feed their families the same as you and I, they are leaving PWC to go where the work is. My guess is when they leave, they take their children with them, therefore reducing the number of students enrolled in ESOL programs. My new nickname for you will be WD40 Man because you are very slippery at avoiding answering questions that don’t support your position. Did you happen to read the question in my post asking the breakdown of LEGAL students enrolled vs. ILLEGAL students enrolled in ESOL? Did you answer that? No, you just yelled that all saving were be credited to the Resolution and then WD40ed your way on to another dumb statement. As I posted earlier today, if PWC was not handing $10,000 bills to each student, THEN WHERE ARE THE SAVINGS? When did Corey go on TV holding the over-sized $12 Million cardboard check returning the funds to PWC. Ponder this and come back in 5 or 6 days when the story is really buried and make another silly proclamation. WD40 Man, I like that.

Flag Comment Posted by zcxnissan on May 30, 2008 at 11:43 pm

Yes Ray how many teachers were laid off? 0!!!. Why would a legal immigrant leave because of a Resolution that by Federal Law that only pertains to illegal immigrants. That is the flimsiest excuse for defending illegality i have ever heard of. Next thing you will tell us is that being illegal is not a crime. LOL. The only intolerance i have noted on here is coming out of the mouths of those who support illegal immigration on here and their apologist supporters. Ray that number is 12,400 x $10000 per student enrolled in ESOL = $12.4 million, now thats what i call savings not counting the enrollment in social services and public schools another plus, more than offsetting the losses in businesses that cater to illegals. Of course if that business caters to illegals, then that is a statistic that really doesn’t matter anyway. Chris Cummings

Flag Comment Posted by jmolina on May 30, 2008 at 8:29 pm

urf8 you couldn’t have said it better, many of this posters need to understand that illegal immigration is a big problem that is not going to be fix with a ban-aid as PWC and C. Stewart pretend to fix, what really upsets me is the fact that many people here are profiling and blaming Hispanics with all kinds of acusations and racial comments, I want to remind them that most Latinos are legal in this county and will not tolerate that kind of aproach, the law needs to be enforced for every citizen of PWC not just one group, I will love to see a white or a black resident being stop and questioned about his legal status and if citizenship is not proven they will probably end up in Canada or South Africa, then they will realize how C. Stewart and his supporters have lied to the citizens of PWC.

Flag Comment Posted by Glock19 on May 30, 2008 at 5:23 pm

It’s a shame more counties don’t pass ordinances to continue driving ILLEGAL people away!  The argument that this is racist is ABSURD.  “Hispanic” is an ETHNICITY not a race.  Learn the difference.  If Mexico is so great (you see the flag everywhere; on vehicles, shop windows, etc.), why not go back?

Flag Comment Posted by Calisto on May 30, 2008 at 2:31 pm

Posted by ( ABRAXAS1 ) on May 30, 2008 at 9:22 am


Why do American citizens think it it racist to check immigration status? We live in the post-911 world, it never hurts to check everybody!
ITS NOT HATE AND FEAR THAT DRIVES PEOPLE TO WANT TO CRACK DOWN ON ILLEGALS,IT IS THE DRAIN ON AN ALREADY STAGGERING ECONOMY. I AM HISPANIC! I BECAME LEGAL, PAY MY TAXES, DO NOT SHOP IN PLACES THAT CATER TO ILLEGALS. IF THEY ARE ILLEGAL AFTER BEING HERE FOR SO LONG IT’S BECAUSE THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING. I AM PROUD OF MY HISPANIC HERITAGE AND THE FACT THAT I BECAME AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, AND IT WAS NOT EASY! I HAVE NO PROBLEM, CHECK MY STATUS AND EVERYONE ELSE!


Congratulations also from me! Now what are we calling Abraxas? Is this person racist? Now way! Just law-abiding. Wonder what the sympathizers have to say now. I’ll guess being of Hispanic heritage this person knows what he/she is talking about.

The silence is deafening!!!!

Flag Comment Posted by T Dawg on May 30, 2008 at 12:41 pm

ABRAXAS1, Congratulations and kudos to you and yours for seeking documentation or citizenship to remain in this country. What you write has been echoed by many other hispanics who are in this country legally. I do a lot of work on the Texas/Mexican border and many of the successful Hispanics who are documented or American citizens have been able to build successful businesses and lives and at the same time have no qualms about being proud of and sharing their culture and heritage. They also do not look kindly on those crossing the border without proper documentation.

Flag Comment Posted by cricket on May 30, 2008 at 11:30 am

Tyler T: You obviously have other issues going on, besides what the comments have been about. Being here illegally, and the terrible crimes that a lot of the illegal Latino’s have committed and some as awful as against our children, is the worst problem. The struggle of those who are here legally, and went through the legal way. All this has nothing to do with racism.

Flag Comment Posted by ABRAXAS1 on May 30, 2008 at 8:22 am

Why do American citizens think it it racist to check immigration status? We live in the post-911 world, it never hurts to check everybody!
ITS NOT HATE AND FEAR THAT DRIVES PEOPLE TO WANT TO CRACK DOWN ON ILLEGALS,IT IS THE DRAIN ON AN ALREADY STAGGERING ECONOMY. I AM HISPANIC! I BECAME LEGAL, PAY MY TAXES, DO NOT SHOP IN PLACES THAT CATER TO ILLEGALS. IF THEY ARE ILLEGAL AFTER BEING HERE FOR SO LONG IT’S BECAUSE THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING. I AM PROUD OF MY HISPANIC HERITAGE AND THE FACT THAT I BECAME AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, AND IT WAS NOT EASY! I HAVE NO PROBLEM, CHECK MY STATUS AND EVERYONE ELSE!

Flag Comment Posted by TylerT on May 29, 2008 at 8:04 pm

Oh sorry everyone, I guess you are all superior to me:).  Now does that make you a racist?  Let me correct myself, never in my life have I seen so many examples of ignorance!

Flag Comment Posted by raywilliams on May 29, 2008 at 6:51 pm

dag gum Chris, that’s a lot of savings. How many of those ESOL students were LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and how many illegal? ‘cause the savings off legal residents don’t count as Resolution impact. How many teachers were laid off in order for these savings to be realized? Any school space sub-leased out? Has the money been put back into the General Fund or are the funds just black marks on white paper for the time being?  Is PWC lowering our taxes to adjust for these HUGH savings? Or are we to received a tax rebate check to return our share? I missed the post where Corey said the county budget woes where over - can you point me to that article?  Whew, I await your educated reply.

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