LETTER: Embarrassed by the county

“it does not bother me that although we pay OUT OF POCKET almost $400 a month for insurance ourselves, instead of using that money to buy new cars ..“

Joni, any idea of what your insurance policy would cost on the open market - say for a Walmart worker or a burger flipper who had to pay the full tilt for coverage for their family?

Any idea of who pays for the difference of what your policy costs and the $400 you actually pay?  (I’m still guessing it is ‘we the people’).

Any idea of why ‘we the people’ should pay, say .. 2/3’s of your insurance premium but why you shouldn’t pay anything towards the burger flippers policy?

And ... not picking on Joni but put the question to all the Haves.  Why should YOU receive subsidized health care benefits but those working at the bottom rung of the ladder not?

Joni6100,

“Everyone knows the system needs to be worked on, God knows it needs help, but, fixed by whom, and how fast? It wont even go into effect for 10 years, if it is so dire…why wait 10 years? “

So what are your suggestions?  I’m delighted to see that some of my Conservative sparring partners have finally started admitting that our present health care system is not the greatest, bestest, most perfect system on this planet ever.  But, I’m not hearing any viable Conservative options to a government managed system.

You already suggested that one way to improve health care was more neighborhood clinics, presumably publicly-funded.  That would be a relatively small-scale government managed program, staffed by government-paid healthcare workers and staff, which is even more government-controlled than a single-payer system.

In fact, I actually agree with you on this point.  This would be a good thing as part of comprehensive health care system.

I can’t help but notice you get awfully defensive about your family’s health insurance.  I also can’t help but think that lots of people in this country would be delighted to pay $400 per month for coverage that would actually pay for any treatment they needed.  Those would be the people with “pre-existing conditions,“ such as severe acne, chronic back pain, serious childhood diseases, etc, whom insurance companies presently will not insure at any price. 

One of the items in the House bill bans the practice of discriminating against people with “pre-existing conditions” and refusing to sell them health insurance.

Do you have a problem with that?

first of all, my husband has gone to work for THE AMERICAN PEOPLE everyday for 33 years to protect and serve, he makes very little compared to those in the private sector and so no, it does not bother me that although we pay OUT OF POCKET almost $400 a month for insurance ourselves, instead of using that money to buy new cars, new games, new clothes and other fun items like millions of Americans do) the government has a contract with the insurance company for rates and coverage similar to other companies. It also never bothered me that my father gave 40 years of his life to protect and serve (and almost lost his life in Iran to save others) and my brother gave 20 (and almost got blown up for you and others), it also never bothers me that my husband’s father gave over 40 years and his brother gave 34 plus years for their country instead of going into private sector when the compensation would have been much better. We live frugally and we also pay for health insurance for our college daughters who were aged out so they would not become a drag on society if they got sick. Now,we sure could have found better ways to spend that money and I know many who choose to do that, tisk, tisk, it stinks to be responsible. And while my husband could have gone into a much more lucrative company, he spent his whole adult life protecting your butts.

Does that answer your questions? And gosh, it sure feels good to be home, knowing that all the money we spent on insurance all these years came in handy, kind of like car insurance, you hate paying for it, you know there is so much more cool fun stuff you could have used the money on, but you are happy you did when you need it.

“You can trace all of this back to Carter,“

So then, we can also blame Regean and Bush I, as well as Bush II. Apparently none of these fine Republicans were truely “Conservative,“ because none of them ever took a stand against the government forcing those poor, helpless banks do things that went totally against their banking rules.  Namely, make loans to people who could not afford to make the payments. 

Perhaps the solution is to allow banks to become so big and powerful that they can stand up to the bullies in government who try and tell them how to run thier business.

No, wait…

ha ha R & R good one   actually, it is not PWC, hubby is Federal and we have paid for insurance for over 30 years and never really used it much as very healthy. soooooo fact is, WE have paid for it over and over. Just like car and home insurance, luckily, we have paid for it forever, but never used it.

First of all, let’s get this straight, YES we do need something done about the cost of health care in this nation. We are paying for millions who DO NOT PAY and yes, the fraud must be stopped.  No one thinks we should do NOTHING, many just disagree with WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. This way of craming this garbage bill down our throats is outrageous, instead of rushing and doing it wrong, wouldn’t it be better to be smart? This is being rushed before the next election cycle for power not for the people.

I worked for Fairfax Hospital (INOVA) for over 17 years, and we always had ways to help those who had no insurance. The poor have insurance, the working poor can get aid too, I spent years helping them fill out forms but there is much more that can be done like neighborhood clinics etc. 

This whole health care thing is not about “the people”, it is all about saving the Dem’s butts with their Union supporters. The unions are BROKE and the legacy costs can not be sustained.

The government WASTED the money held for Medicare and now, they are scrambling to find a way to pay for it.

Finally, there is a very large number of people who think the government knows best how to take care of them, they are allowing themselves to become “slaves” they are the ones who were brought up being taught that the government is the answer.  Sorry, guys, you will never get me to agree that this is about people, it is about power, paying back for billions in campaign finance and until we stand up and say enough, we will be slaves to the idiots in government who DO NOT LISTEN TO YOU AND DO NOT READ WHAT THEY VOTE ON.

It was released yesterday that the average family will pay at least $15000 a year for this health insurance, mmmmm sounds like a good deal to me…