To those against illegal immigration
Published: May 10, 2008
Those against illegal immigration, starting today, boycott all Mexican products, including our food, beer, tequila and our labor. If you are an American in the construction industry, I suggest joining the Union, because then you aren’t at risk of a Mexican taking your job. Americans and many legal immigrants believe that by having papers, their work habits shouldn’t be up to par, which leaves “illegals” employed.
Those against illegal immigration seem to blame children of immigrants for America’s problem. I didn’t choose to be Mexican-American, I just got lucky.
Assimilation will never be achieved without some kind of amnesty, which may not even involve green cards, but valid IDs given by the DMV. Being able to identify the criminals is one way to solve this problem. But with one side crying full amnesty and the other crying mass deportation, things will only get worse.
You do not need to know English to be successful in this country and one counts as two by knowing two languages such as English and Spanish since they involve two very distinct communities.
Many “illegals” have studied the English language, and many have learned it. Other illegal and legal individuals may have it harder, since learning English at an older age is extremely difficult.
Those here “legally” may not even know English, but they receive your “respect” for having papers. Let’s be clear that “illegals” aren’t afraid to tell you they’re “illegal,” since they have nothing to hide. They may never have obtained a valid driver’s license in Virginia, but may have in another state or country. Illegal immigrants used to be able to obtain licenses in Virginia, but can no longer renew their expired licenses. We give the police department too much credit, since identifying an “illegal” for an officer couldn’t possibly be difficult. They continue to harass “illegals,” and invade homes without proper warrants, knowing “illegals” may not know what rights they have.
I could never be against illegal immigration, unless other than working, it poses an actual threat to the community as a whole, not just the minority voting population. My parents were both at one point illegal, and even though I was nothing more than an “anchor baby,” I proved to be more than just that.
RUBEN PINEDA
Manassas
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zcx, people with no birth certificates or SS cards lived years ago when registrations were ot required. I do some geneol.ogy research, and in many places there are “no records” of births, deaths, marriages, etc. Laws today hav e made changes. My SS card even says that the card is not to be used for identification purposes. Well, it sure is used as such today.
Everyone concentrates on the affect illegals have on the business community, taxes, schools, etc. However, no one examines the issue from a health standpoint. Within the last year, I have been diagnosed with Interstitial Lung Disease—thus, I have chronic inflammation in my lungs. I was going to take a vacation in Cancun but my pulmonary doctor advised against travelling to Mexico because of high instances of TB and sanitary conditions of the water supply. Thus, my major concern in regards to illegal immigrants from any country are quite different, mine are health reasons.
Foreign countries have diseases we are not equipped to deal with here in the States or that are not prevelant here. From a health standpoint, every person entering into the U.S. needs to be documented.
Just think if the U.S. citizen who returned to the U.S. had not been documented and was running free in the U.S. no one would of known how to contact him or his whereabouts. Our country is at risk of exposure to diseases we are not equipped to deal with. This is especially dreadful to those of us with suppressed immune systems.
Identity Theft! Last time I heard, that is ILLEGAL!
May 9, 2008
Feds: Car washes hired illegal aliens
By BEN FINLEY
The Intelligencer
Five managers of area car washes owned by the Horsham-based Car Care Inc. are accused of knowingly employing illegal immigrants and providing stolen identities for them.
None of the car washes are in Bucks County.
Timothy Gibson, 36, of Thornridge Drive in Falls, one of the managers, faces up to five years in prison, a $250,000 fine and three years of supervised release if convicted, officials said.
Gibson was the manager of the Super Bright Car Wash on East Germantown Pike in Norristown in 2005 and 2006, when 90 percent of its workers were found to be illegal immigrants, according to the federal indictment.
The managers employed the illegal immigrants under the names and identities of former, legitimate employees. Each stolen identity, including a Social Security number, was assigned to several illegal immigrants over time, so the managers wouldn’t have to file termination papers when the workers quit, according to court documents.
The illegal immigrants were paid minimum wage or better, officials said. The stolen identities allowed the immigrants to cash or deposit their checks at local banks.
The illegal workers’ wages were filed with the Internal Revenue Service under the stolen names, which will likely have some tax implications for the former, legal car wash employees, U.S. Attorney Patrick L. Meehan said Thursday at a press conference in Philadelphia.
Go to www.wehirealiens.com and report them!
Phdee records get lost all the time or entered incorrectly and sometimes records are not even made. I would like to think that records of all births in the US are made now. A lot of these mistakes happened last century and in previous centuries. there is no excuse for them now especially with electronic and physical documentation. If you have no birth certificate and no soc sec card it is only natural that you should be denied everything that one who posseses these documents should receive. Chris Cummings
From Franklin D. Roosevelt:
Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds.
From raywilliams: Chris, live a free life and don’t place yourself in prison without walls.
And then on to Chris Cummings ... If I was in violation of the law for sponsoring an undocumented worker for their green card, don’t you think someone in the governmental process would have stepped up and asked a few questions? Sorry dude, the INS has a set “fine” the immigrant must pay when applying for legal documentation for entering this country illegally. Once this “fine” has been paid, their debt to society has been cancelled. In the INS eyes, crossing the border illegally is no worse that a traffic violation. I don’t make the Rule of Law. As a business owner, I just follow the available process set forth by our government. Chris, your hatred must eat at you day and night. I feel for you buddy, I really do. I understand this issue is important to you but this is a discussion group to share ideas and not a place to shout-down people just because they have other opinions. Step back, take a deep breathe and relax some. The sun will come up tomorrow. Understand there will be peace in Palestine before the illegal immigration is solved in this country. I assume by your past comments you are still under 40. We all thought we knew everything at that age. Peace.
barnun, I’m all for controls and willing to meet half or three-quarters to the other side. We both agree there needs to be a plan of action, properly funded to first stem the tide then begin to control it. All this bickering about who’s right ain’t gettin’ nothin’ done. As a discussion group, we need to find area where we agree and show a more unified face to the BOCS. You may also note I’ve quit responding to the crackpots that post. Your option as well 
zcx, where do you get your statements? I never brought up any topic on how to get a SS number. When spouses could get SS benefits, lots had never worked, so they had no numbers, and had to apply to get benefits. Do you deny that some people born in the US never had birth certificates?
Ray, we’ve always agreed on some basic outlines. Border control should be done for the drugs that come into our country as well as illegals. I work with 4 legal immigrants from places other than mexico. They all worked very hard to do things the right way and all disagree with illegal immigration. One guy is from Zimbabwe. His mother is still there and that country is in terrible termoil. he cannot bring her over legally. I’m all for immigration and I do feel for the people that want to come here, I just refuse to excuse them All for breaking our laws and then rewarding them for doing so. I agree on ID’s and Documentation but that is dangerously close to amnesty. I did like the plan that said they had to voluntarily return to their county of origin to get their Visa. This will not work without the desire to do so. As long as we give employers a pass, and give the illegals the benefits of our social systems, they will never have the desire to correct their actions.
Federal Immigration and Nationality Act.
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)
“Any person who ... encourages or induces an alien to…reside…knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such…residence is…in violation of law, shall be punished as provided…for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs…fined under title 18…imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.“ So you see Ray even if i was to sponsor an illegal alien by law i have to turn them in. As for you sponsoring illegals you should have been arrested a long time ago and fined, vehicles confiscated an more than likely it would be for a felony for hiring 10 illegals or more. You sir should be locked up for a long time.You are worse than a mere thief. As for Grant Gary Jacobsen use of the term undocumented worker is also the sign of aa hidden agenda, its called a full blown illegal apologist and the only cure is arrest for the hiring of illegals as well as deportation. Sorry Phdee you can’t get a SS number without proper documentation, other than that it is through stolen identities and or document fraud. It happens all the time, Landdowne, Manassas, etc, and the recent incident at the Richmond courthouse. Looks like the roundup is on. Chris Cummings
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